Director of Public Transport Ian Longworth says negotiations are continuing on changing working practices for bus drivers in the Isle of Man.
Currently Sunday working is classed as overtime which, along with similar payments to vintage railway staff, has cost the Department of Community, Culture and Leisure ?3.2 million in the last two years.
Mr Longworth says the negotiations are frank and direct (first part of audio file):
Regional industrial organiser for Unite Steve Salter says problems could be avoided if the department would talk to unions as soon as it felt there was a problem (second part of audio file):

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